Legislature(2017 - 2018)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/01/2018 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:04:39 AM Start
09:05:10 AM Presentation: Medicaid Cost Drivers and Reform Update
10:53:12 AM Adjourn
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+ Presentation: Medicaid Cost Drivers and Reform TELECONFERENCED
Update
Margaret Brodie, Director, Division of Health
Care Services, Department of Health and Social
Services
Monique Martin, Health Care Policy Advisor
Department of Health and Social Services
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 1, 2018                                                                                           
                         9:04 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:04:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  called  the  Senate  Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:04 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Anna MacKinnon, Co-Chair                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Vice-Chair                                                                                                
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Monique  Martin, Healthcare  Policy  Advisor, Department  of                                                                    
Health   and   Social   Services;   Jon   Sherwood,   Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner,  Medicaid and  Health Care  Policy, Department                                                                    
of Health  and Social  Services; Margaret  Brodie, Director,                                                                    
Division of  Health Care Services, Department  of Health and                                                                    
Social  Services;  Duane  Mayes,   Director  of  Senior  and                                                                    
Disability  Services,   Department  of  Health   and  Social                                                                    
Services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: MEDICAID COST DRIVERS and REFORM UPDATE                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   MacKinnon  noted   that   the  presentation   had                                                                    
concluded on  Slide 13 the  previous day and would  begin on                                                                    
Slide 14.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MONIQUE  MARTIN, HEALTHCARE  POLICY  ADVISOR, DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                    
HEALTH  AND  SOCIAL  SERVICES,   continued  to  address  the                                                                    
presentation  "Senate  Finance  Committee  -  Medicaid  Cost                                                                    
Drivers  and   Reform  Update"   from  the   previous  day's                                                                    
committee meeting.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin looked at Slide 14, "Medicaid Reform":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Primary Care Case Management                                                                                               
     FY17 Fiscal Note ($93.5)                                                                                                   
     FY17 Actuals ($4,250.0)                                                                                                    
     FY18 Fiscal Note ($800.9)                                                                                                  
     FY19 Fiscal Note ($2,145.1)                                                                                                
     On Track?  Yes                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ? Temporarily expand Alaska Medicaid Coordinated Care                                                                      
     Initiative (AMCCI)                                                                                                         
     ?   Coordinated   Care   Demonstration   Projects   and                                                                    
     behavioral health system reform to develop / test new                                                                      
     models                                                                                                                     
       Transition Medicaid recipients to appropriate                                                                            
     program                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin explained  that SB 74 required  the department to                                                                    
provide  care  management  services for  Alaskans  receiving                                                                    
Medicaid that  had multiple hospitalizations. She  said that                                                                    
the  hope  was   that  these  Alaskans  could   shift  to  a                                                                    
coordinated  care   demonstration  project  or   to  receive                                                                    
services  through the  1115  behavioral  health waiver.  She                                                                    
stated that the Alaska  Medicaid Coordinated Care Initiative                                                                    
(AMCCI) had  been ramped up  to provide care  management for                                                                    
those  individuals.  She  relayed that  the  department  was                                                                    
looking to  AMCCI to provide  services for  those reentering                                                                    
communities  from  the  correctional system.  She  expressed                                                                    
confidence that savings would be achieved in FY18.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:08:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin presented Slide 15, "Medicaid Reform":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Telehealth                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     FY17 Fiscal Note -                                                                                                         
     FY17 Actuals -                                                                                                             
     FY18 Fiscal Note ($650.0)                                                                                                  
     FY19 Fiscal Note ($1,300.0)                                                                                                
     On Track? Savings indeterminate                                                                                            
     ? Telehealth Workgroup Report:                                                                                             
     http://dhss.alaska.gov/HealthyAlaska/Documents/redesig                                                                     
     n/MCDRE_Telehealth_Workgroup_Report.pdf                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? SB74 directs the  department to identify improvements                                                                    
     in   telehealth  capabilities   that   would  be   most                                                                    
     effective  in  reducing  Medicaid costs  and  improving                                                                    
     access to health care services                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Martin  reminded  the committee  that  SB  74  outlined                                                                    
significant  requirements  for  telehealth.  She  noted  the                                                                    
indeterminate fiscal note and  actuals for FY17 as reflected                                                                    
on the green  chart. She said that  the indeterminate number                                                                    
existed  as   the  department   ramped  up   the  telehealth                                                                    
workgroup   that  the   department   had  facilitated.   She                                                                    
emphasized  that  SB 74  had  been  very specific  that  any                                                                    
telehealth programs  implemented would also  reduce Medicaid                                                                    
cost, and shared that the  department was working cautiously                                                                    
around telehealth.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:11:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin discussed Slide 16, "Medicaid Reform":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Health Homes                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     FY17 Fiscal Note 4.8                                                                                                       
     FY17 Actuals 4.8                                                                                                           
     FY18 Fiscal Note 42.6                                                                                                      
     FY19 Fiscal Note ($1,672.4)                                                                                                
     On Track? Yes                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ? Planning for Health Homes: 2018                                                                                          
          Coordinated Care Demonstration Projects                                                                               
            Other reform initiatives                                                                                            
     ? 90 / 10 Match for eight quarters only                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Martin  informed  that  health  homes  had  a  specific                                                                    
definition in  the Affordable Care  Act (ACA).  She believed                                                                    
that the one of  the coordinated care demonstration projects                                                                    
would be  a good model for  the rest of the  state and other                                                                    
providers to implement. She relayed  that the state received                                                                    
a 90/10 match  from the federal government  for health home;                                                                    
the  federal   government  paid  90  percent   of  the  cost                                                                    
associated with implementation of a  health home model for 8                                                                    
quarters. She stressed  that it was important  that when the                                                                    
program  was implemented,  it could  be  implemented as  far                                                                    
across  the state  a possible  to  maximize savings,  rather                                                                    
than for  a small group  of Medicaid recipients in  one part                                                                    
of the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens queried the definition of "health home."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Martin   explained  that   health  homes   allowed  for                                                                    
examination  of  an  individual's  surroundings  and  living                                                                    
conditions and how it might affect a person's health.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:13:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin spoke to Slide 17, "Medicaid Reform":                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Pioneer Homes                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     FY17 Fiscal Note (1,066.7)                                                                                                 
     FY17 Actuals (217.0)                                                                                                       
     FY18 Fiscal Note (1,066.7)                                                                                                 
     FY19 Fiscal Note (1,066.7)                                                                                                 
     On Track? No                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ? Requires payment assistance applicants to apply for                                                                      
     Medicaid                                                                                                                   
     ? Timing                                                                                                                   
            Income Qualifying Trust                                                                                             
            Waiver Application Process                                                                                          
            Level III Residents require the highest level                                                                       
          of care                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Martin detailed  that Pioneer  Homes were  implementing                                                                    
this  initiative directly  with  residents.  She noted  that                                                                    
there were challenges that were being addressed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:16:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  wondered whether there was  an opportunity to                                                                    
speed up  the waiver application before  elderly individuals                                                                    
passed away.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin stated  that the Pioneer Homes  were working with                                                                    
the   Division  of   Public  Assistance   and  Seniors   and                                                                    
Disability Services  to find opportunities  for efficiencies                                                                    
and other ways to speed up the process.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson wondered  what the committee could  do to make                                                                    
the process more efficient.                                                                                                     
Ms.  Martin   thought  some   internal  barriers   had  been                                                                    
identified.  She believed  that Commissioner  Sherwood could                                                                    
offer more information.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson expressed  frustration  with the  bureaucracy                                                                    
that the elderly  and families had to go  through to receive                                                                    
care.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JON SHERWOOD, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER,  MEDICAID AND HEALTH CARE                                                                    
POLICY, DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH  AND SOCIAL  SERVICES, replied                                                                    
that  the  department was  looking  at  how to  address  the                                                                    
barriers. He  lamented that  most of  the barriers  were the                                                                    
result of federal requirements.  He continued that people in                                                                    
long-term care  are subject to transfer  of asset penalties,                                                                    
which required  the department to  do a five-year  look back                                                                    
at   the   patient's    financial   records   to   determine                                                                    
eligibility. He  thought there  was enough  coordination but                                                                    
agreed  that improvements  could be  made. He  was not  sure                                                                    
what could be done at  the legislative level. He appreciated                                                                    
Senator Olson's concern.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:20:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin turned to Slide 18, "Medicaid Reform":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Emergency Department Improvement Initiative                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     FY17 Fiscal Note 4.8                                                                                                       
     FY17 Actuals 4.8                                                                                                           
     FY18 Fiscal Note 42.6                                                                                                      
     FY19 Fiscal Note ($1,300.0)                                                                                                
     On Track? Yes                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ? Alaska State Hospital & Nursing Home Association and                                                                     
     Alaska Chapter of the American College of                                                                                  
     Emergency Physicians                                                                                                       
    ? Emergency Department Information Exchange (EDIE)                                                                          
       Nine hospitals are "live"                                                                                                
       Connecting to the Prescription Drug Monitoring                                                                           
     Program (PDMP) in 2018                                                                                                     
     ? Established uniform statewide guidelines for                                                                             
     prescribing narcotics                                                                                                      
     ? http://www.ashnha.com/edcp/                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Martin  informed the  committee  that  one of  the  key                                                                    
pieces  of the  Emergency Department  Improvement Initiative                                                                    
was  the Emergency  Department Information  Exchange (EDIE).                                                                    
This  system  was  the real-time  information  exchange  for                                                                    
physicians and  providers in emergency room  facilities. The                                                                    
system   was    designed   to   keep   tabs    on   patients                                                                    
inappropriately  seeking  prescription   pain  killers.  The                                                                    
system also helped  to identify people who  were not getting                                                                    
connected  with a  primary care  provider  to address  their                                                                    
health  concerns.  She  shared  that  regulations  had  been                                                                    
recently   submitted  that   would  connect   the  emergency                                                                    
department information  exchange with the  prescription drug                                                                    
monitoring   program,   which   would  allow   for   further                                                                    
surveillance of prescription drug acquisition by patients.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von Imhof  referenced slide  6,  which showed  that                                                                    
hospital  services costs  was the  largest  cost driver  for                                                                    
Medicaid.  She recalled  discussion  from  the previous  day                                                                    
pertaining  to coordinated  and primary  care programs.  She                                                                    
wondered  whether the  department  was tracking  individuals                                                                    
using   the  emergency   room   for  non-emergency   medical                                                                    
services.  She   wondered  whether   people  who   used  the                                                                    
emergency room  frequently, and who  had been  identified as                                                                    
high users, could be cut off from Medicaid.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin stated  that there were two  programs underway to                                                                    
address the issue.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:24:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von  Imhof wanted  to  see  past data  that  showed                                                                    
identification of high  utilizers and what had  been done to                                                                    
decrease  utilizations  of the  ER.  She  asked whether  the                                                                    
department  flagged such  incidents as  high-priority, since                                                                    
they contributed as the biggest cost driver.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARGARET   BRODIE,  DIRECTOR,   DIVISION   OF  HEALTH   CARE                                                                    
SERVICES, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH  AND SOCIAL SERVICES, relayed                                                                    
that if an individual  was over-utilizing ER services, there                                                                    
was  a service  utilization  review program,  used both  for                                                                    
recipients  and providers.  If the  individual did  not work                                                                    
through the  care management program, and  continued to over                                                                    
use  the emergency  room, that  person would  be put  into a                                                                    
care management  program, which would lock  the patient into                                                                    
one physician and one pharmacy.  If the patient continued to                                                                    
utilize the emergency  room, Medicaid would not  pay for the                                                                    
visit unless it was an emergency.                                                                                               
Vice-Chair  Bishop  queried  the  leading  cause  of  return                                                                    
visits to the emergency room.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie  stated that  the  leading  cause was  typically                                                                    
behavioral health issues.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked whether  Ms. Brodie  could address                                                                    
why  care  coordination might  not  be  an entry  point  for                                                                    
determining whether a person should  be in a care management                                                                    
program, which would restrict use  and could be more closely                                                                    
monitored.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brodie  stated that both  programs were  always running,                                                                    
and  each referred  to the  other. The  contractor currently                                                                    
handling  the care  management program  had 312  individuals                                                                    
enrolled in the  program. She said that  the care management                                                                    
program could only manage just over 300 people at any time.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  asserted   that  her  constituency  was                                                                    
curious why  the division  had decided  not to  maximize the                                                                    
return  on investment  with the  care management  program by                                                                    
targeting a  structured delivery  of the services  for those                                                                    
that overutilized the hospital and the emergency room.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie  stated that  there  was  a shortcoming  in  the                                                                    
capacity of the contractor. In  June of 2017, the department                                                                    
had signed  a contract  with a  new contractor,  which would                                                                    
allow for service for more recipients.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked whether  the department would start                                                                    
to  examine over-utilization  of  emergency room  care as  a                                                                    
cost driver.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brodie  stated that the  department used  data analytics                                                                    
to determine who was an outlier  of the use of services. She                                                                    
stated  that  using  the  new  contractor  would  result  in                                                                    
serving many more recipients, and  the threshold for overuse                                                                    
could be changed as appropriate.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  thought that  if emergency  room overuse                                                                    
was the  number one  cost driver, overutilization  should be                                                                    
considered when considering recipients.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie  stated that  the  department  did look  at  the                                                                    
highest cost drivers. She used  the example of opioid abuse,                                                                    
in which  a patient could  be drug seeking at  the emergency                                                                    
room  or could  legitimately use  the emergency  room for  a                                                                    
drug overdose.  She reiterated that the  limiting factor was                                                                    
the  number  of individuals  that  could  be served  by  the                                                                    
contractor.                                                                                                                     
9:32:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof asked whether  Truven Health Analytics was                                                                    
the name of the new analytics company hired by the state.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brodie answered in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator von  Imhof expressed appreciation for  the company's                                                                    
work.  She hoped  that data  could be  gathered quickly  and                                                                    
that  the   department  could   provide  the   company  with                                                                    
diagnostic data  so that  analysis could  begin immediately.                                                                    
She hoped that a report could be produced by February 2019.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:34:02 AM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:34:27 AM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon stated  that there  had been  an ongoing                                                                    
discussion  concerning major  cost drivers  in Medicaid  and                                                                    
healthcare  in general.  She listed  cost  drivers had  been                                                                    
scrutinized   for   doctors,  pharmaceuticals   (companies),                                                                    
insurance and insurance providers, and hospitals.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie thought  that the  accurate  costs drivers  were                                                                    
hospitals, physicians, and pharmacies.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  asked  whether  insurance  was  driving                                                                    
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brodie  thought insurance could  be driving the  cost of                                                                    
healthcare overall, which could impact Medicaid.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  thought  that  there  was  an  argument                                                                    
between doctors and insurance providers  as to which was the                                                                    
higher cost driver.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:38:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie stated  that for  hospital  stays, a  contractor                                                                    
determined whether  the length of stay  was appropriate; the                                                                    
length of  the hospital stay was  pre-approved. She asserted                                                                    
that a  patient did not go  to the hospital for  10 days and                                                                    
then  Medicaid  picked up  the  bill.  She  said that  if  a                                                                    
patient  was admitted  from the  emergency room,  they would                                                                    
have three days before they needed to get prior approval.                                                                       
9:39:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon rebutted  that the  weighted average  in                                                                    
trying  to  manage hospital  stays  was  directly linked  to                                                                    
emergency  room stays.  She asserted  that individuals  that                                                                    
were  on   the  system  were  using   their  emergency  room                                                                    
privileges  to access  healthcare. She  wondered if  studies                                                                    
were  being held  up in  order to  control the  cost of  the                                                                    
system based  on what the  state and federal  government are                                                                    
paying for those hospital stays.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie  stated  that  the  department  was  identifying                                                                    
individuals on  a quarterly basis. The  new contractor would                                                                    
include   more  information   which  would   enable  quicker                                                                    
intervention.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche referenced  a document  entitled "Medicaid                                                                    
Claims and  Enrollment," (copy on  file). He noted  the over                                                                    
$11  thousand per  year cost  per  recipient. He  understood                                                                    
that the figure reflected actual utilization costs.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brodie answered in the affirmative.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  asked whether intense case  management had                                                                    
been considered for the top 25 percent of users.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:43:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie replied  that some  individuals were  in a  case                                                                    
management program; however,  individuals that reached older                                                                    
age sometimes  became disabled and required  more assistance                                                                    
in    their   daily    activities   or    they   could    be                                                                    
institutionalized, which substantially raised the cost.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  suggested leaving individuals 85  years or                                                                    
older out of  the equation. He spoke to  a "normally healthy                                                                    
range,"  of people  21 through  30 years  of age.  He argued                                                                    
that the  average costs  for that age  group was  higher for                                                                    
Medicaid than in  the private sector. He  contended that the                                                                    
pressure that the private sector  face to keep average costs                                                                    
down was not  a problem for Medicaid. He  thought that costs                                                                    
could  be driven  down if  users were  taught how  to manage                                                                    
their healthcare.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brodie believed  that under the new  contract, the high-                                                                    
cost  recipients  Senator  Micciche  referred  to  would  be                                                                    
picked up.  She shared  that the plan  was to  serve several                                                                    
thousand,  not  just  the  top  300  users,  under  the  new                                                                    
contract. The new system would be in place by June 2018.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:47:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator von  Imhof asked  whether the  cost of  the contract                                                                    
was in the FY19 budget.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie  specified that  the  cost  was taken  from  the                                                                    
Enterprise  contract  and recalled  that  there  had been  a                                                                    
savings of $200,000 per year with the new contract.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked whether  the transition was  a new                                                                    
idea, or  an idea that  was just now being  implemented. She                                                                    
relayed  that  the Medicaid  program  had  been a  point  of                                                                    
discussion for  quite some time. She  wondered whether there                                                                    
were competing  interests within  the department  to address                                                                    
the highest cost  drivers or had attention  been diverted to                                                                    
other things.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brodie  stated that  the department  had wanted  to make                                                                    
the  change for  some time.  There was  a question  of staff                                                                    
capacity  when considering  taking on  new initiatives.  The                                                                    
staff had been  focused on paying claims  accurately and on-                                                                    
time. She explained that everyone  within the department was                                                                    
working  closely together  to prepare  the system  for every                                                                    
reform  laid out  in SB  74. She  relayed that  there was  a                                                                    
monthly  meeting of  all Medicaid  directors  and other  key                                                                    
staff members  to discuss ongoing projects  and capacity for                                                                    
taking on  new actions.  She used  the example  of providing                                                                    
clients  with  an  improved  explanation  of  benefits.  She                                                                    
believed that some users focused  on their co-pay amount and                                                                    
were unaware  of the total  cost of their care.  The concept                                                                    
had  been  postponed  as the  department  prioritized  other                                                                    
money-saving actions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:52:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  recalled her comments from  the previous                                                                    
day.  She  remembered  a  discussion  about  explanation  of                                                                    
benefits in previous  meetings on SB 74, and  thought it was                                                                    
an  important piece  of  the problem.  She  asked about  the                                                                    
organizational structure in place  for taking on initiatives                                                                    
inside  the  Medicaid  system. She  wondered  who  had  been                                                                    
helping to implement the latest software.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brodie explained that a  team within Healthcare Services                                                                    
was  responsible  for the  system.  She  explained that  the                                                                    
contractor, Conduent,  coded the system and  made changes at                                                                    
the  direction  of  the team.  She  described  the  process,                                                                    
adding  that  a  federal  match  of  90  percent  was  being                                                                    
requested  for  anything  over $100,000.  She  relayed  that                                                                    
weekly  meetings were  held with  the contractor  to discuss                                                                    
all projects. She  related many projects were  active at one                                                                    
time   and  that   currently  there   were  several   SB  74                                                                    
initiatives that needed changes.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:56:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  recalled that  Ms. Brodie  had discussed                                                                    
interface with the many areas  of public health. She thought                                                                    
Ms.  Brodie  had  referenced four  different  entities  that                                                                    
intersected  with   Medicaid  and  wondered   whether  those                                                                    
entities  were   working  with  the  department   on  system                                                                    
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Brodie  stated that the  public health entities  did not                                                                    
help with  the system  but did  help with  population health                                                                    
issues. She  said that  the department  worked to  align its                                                                    
policies with public health policies.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von  Imhof relayed  that  she  also served  on  the                                                                    
Senate Health and Social Services  Committee. She had seen a                                                                    
presentation  the   previous  day  pertaining   to  changing                                                                    
services for  autism related care.   She was  concerned that                                                                    
the state would be saving  money in reforms while increasing                                                                    
costs  through expanding  programs with  federal match.  She                                                                    
wondered  who retained  the authority  to  burden the  state                                                                    
financially to  increase regulation, expand  population, and                                                                    
increase programs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Sherwood  stated  that  the   addition  of  the  autism                                                                    
regulations  that  Senator  von  Imhof  referenced  was  the                                                                    
implementation of  federal requirements  after clarification                                                                    
of policy. He specified that  states are required to provide                                                                    
coverage for  autism services for  children. He  stated that                                                                    
the  department  implemented  policy updates  on  a  regular                                                                    
basis and that the  department vetted the regulations before                                                                    
implementation.  He added  that  there  was also  litigation                                                                    
related   to  the   speed  in   which  the   department  had                                                                    
implemented  certain regulations.  He  explained that  under                                                                    
state  statute the  department had  to operate  the Medicaid                                                                    
program in compliance with federal law and regulations.                                                                         
10:01:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von Imhof  asked whether  there was  flexibility on                                                                    
how the state implemented updated federal requirements.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sherwood thought that there  was some flexibility on how                                                                    
a  program  was  structured.  If it  was  determined  to  be                                                                    
medically necessary  for a child  to receive a  service, the                                                                    
state was required to provide  that service. He relayed that                                                                    
there were  provisions around limits before  requiring prior                                                                    
authorization.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sherwood  addressed Senator  von Imhof's  question about                                                                    
the  $9.8  million. He  said  that  the number  of  children                                                                    
diagnosed  and the  number of  providers available  would be                                                                    
examined to  assess the  expectation of  available services.                                                                    
He thought  that the 50  percent match rate applied  to some                                                                    
recipients  of Medicaid,  but there  were varying  increased                                                                    
match rates for other populations.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:04:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   MacKinnon  commented   that  the   previous  year                                                                    
individuals had  called from out  of state to  indicate they                                                                    
had relocated to Alaska from  out of state to participate in                                                                    
the  robust healthcare  system. She  was concerned  that the                                                                    
mandates from  the federal  government had  been interpreted                                                                    
to  provide better  care than  other states  under Medicaid.                                                                    
She was  concerned that the  federal government  was driving                                                                    
spending in the department.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sherwood  agreed that  the state  had a  robust Medicaid                                                                    
program,  but did  not think  it had  a top  ranking in  the                                                                    
nation. He stated that Alaska  could be more attractive than                                                                    
other  states depending  on individual  needs. He  countered                                                                    
that for others,  the state was not an  attractive state for                                                                    
healthcare;  lack  of  access  to  certain  specialists  and                                                                    
availability of support for specialty  care had forced other                                                                    
Alaskan families  to relocate  out-of-state. He  spoke about                                                                    
the federal  requirements, the department  always considered                                                                    
how  to meet  the requirements  in the  most efficient  ways                                                                    
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked whether  cost was  considered when                                                                    
evaluating a  program's impact to  the state or if  only the                                                                    
public health impact was considered.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sherwood  stated that he  certainly considered  cost. He                                                                    
stressed  that the  health of  the population  was important                                                                    
and  that  he subscribed  to  practices  that provided  good                                                                    
health  outcomes. He  stated that  he was  aware that  money                                                                    
spent  in one  area was  money that  might not  be spent  in                                                                    
another;  resource  allocation  for optimum  benefit  was  a                                                                    
constant challenge.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:08:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Stevens  stressed   the  importance   of  patients                                                                    
understanding  an  explanation  of benefits.  He  felt  that                                                                    
people  could  not  change  their   behavior  if  they  were                                                                    
ignorant of the cost of their care.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie  stated  that  the   issue  was  under  repeated                                                                    
discussion and  that the  department was  working diligently                                                                    
to be sure that patients were better informed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:10:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche recommended that  the department should not                                                                    
expand in any  new area until the state could  get a "handle                                                                    
on costs."  He asked  whether the department  had considered                                                                    
bringing on a private sector insurance manager.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sherwood  stated that the department  had considered the                                                                    
option from time  to time. He pointed out  that the Medicaid                                                                    
program was  different from insurance programs  in a variety                                                                    
of ways.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:15:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von   Imhof  asked   whether  the   department  had                                                                    
considered putting out a request  for proposal (RFP) for one                                                                    
component of  Medicaid. She thought  that while  the private                                                                    
sector  might   not  understand  the  complexities   of  the                                                                    
Medicaid  population,  they could  bring  new  tools to  the                                                                    
table.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sherwood  elaborated that one option  in the coordinated                                                                    
care  project  included  the  proposal  of  working  with  a                                                                    
private  entity. The  department  was  in negotiations  with                                                                    
three different  entities, one of  which was a  managed care                                                                    
organization.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von   Imhof  understood   that  the  RFP   was  for                                                                    
eligibility and payment processing.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sherwood  stated that  it was  not possible  to contract                                                                    
out  eligibility  determination.  He  clarified  that  under                                                                    
federal  law eligibility  determination could  only be  done                                                                    
for  Medicaid  by  merit   based,  government  employees  or                                                                    
employees  of tribally  operated TANF  programs. He  relayed                                                                    
that operation  of eligibility  systems could  be contracted                                                                    
out but that  the department was looking  at contracting out                                                                    
the coverage side of the issue and not eligibility.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon wondered how waivers were driving costs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:19:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin addressed Slide 19, "Medicaid Reform":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Fraud & Abuse Prevention                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     FY17 Fiscal Note (401.9)                                                                                                   
     FY17 Actuals -0-                                                                                                       
     FY18 Fiscal Note ($556.2)                                                                                                  
     FY19 Fiscal Note ($543.7)                                                                                                  
     On Track? Delayed                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? Alaska Medicaid False Claims and Reporting Act                                                                           
            Coordination with the Office of the Inspector                                                                       
          General for enhanced FMAP                                                                                             
     ? Require Medicaid Providers to conduct self-audits and                                                                  
     return overpayments along with Interest and penalties                                                                      
            Regulations implementing these provisions have                                                                      
          been adopted by DHSS and transmitted to Dept. of                                                                      
          Law                                                                                                                   
     ? Fraud and Abuse prevention efforts for FY17                                                                              
     http://dhss.alaska.gov/HealthyAlaska/Documents/Medicai                                                                     
     d_Fraud_Abuse_Waste_Report_SB74_Nov15-2017.pdf                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin stated that although  the initiative was delayed,                                                                    
the  department  had  a  robust   fraud,  abuse,  and  waste                                                                    
prevention program.  She shared  that the Department  of Law                                                                    
produced  an  annual  report  on   fraud,  waste  and  abuse                                                                    
prevention efforts in  the state, based on  fiscal year. She                                                                    
said that the  report was transferred to  the legislature on                                                                    
November 15th of each year  and highlighted the larger fraud                                                                    
cases and  the efforts  to reclaim  state dollars.  She said                                                                    
that the provisions  in SB 74 had helped  the department set                                                                    
up  the  Alaska Medicaid  False  Claims  and Reporting  Act,                                                                    
which  would help  to achieve  an  enhanced Federal  Medical                                                                    
Assistance Percentage  (FMAP). She said that  the department                                                                    
continued coordination with the  office of Inspector General                                                                    
on the federal  level, through the Department  of Health and                                                                    
Social  Services. She  relayed  that  efforts continued  and                                                                    
that  the  department would  work  to  keep the  legislature                                                                    
abreast of  any new information  about fraud and  abuse. She                                                                    
believed that savings could still be achieved.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:22:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon wondered whether  a tip line existed that                                                                    
would pay the public a reward for exposing fraud and abuse.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Martin replied  that  the  department already  received                                                                    
calls  from the  public  and had  a  Program Integrity  Unit                                                                    
within the Department of Health  and Social Services and the                                                                    
Medicaid Fraud  Control Unit within  the Department  of Law.                                                                    
She shared  that the department  retained a  contractor that                                                                    
helped with  utilization reviews that  identified "oddities"                                                                    
in billing and  a until that examined how  claims matched up                                                                    
with recipient's health conditions.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens thought  it was  important that  the public                                                                    
was  aware of  Medicaid fraud  and wondered  how the  public                                                                    
could be made more aware of the issue.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin  responded that there  were often  press releases                                                                    
once information could be publicly exposed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:24:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof noticed that  the fraud use and prevention                                                                    
required  Medicaid  providers  to conduct  self-audits.  She                                                                    
asked if third-party, surprise audits were ever conducted.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Sherwood stated  that in  addition to  self-audits, the                                                                    
department  did regular  audits of  providers from  a random                                                                    
sample  of varied  provider types.  There were  also federal                                                                    
efforts to  the same  end. He spoke  to additional  types of                                                                    
audits.  He said  that providers  complained  when too  many                                                                    
audits  were  conducted  and  for  random  audits  the  same                                                                    
provider would  not be  audited more  than once  every three                                                                    
years.  He  felt that  between  the  state and  the  federal                                                                    
government, there were plenty  of audits being conducted. He                                                                    
added  that anytime  something suspicious  was noticed,  the                                                                    
department  could   conduct  a  separate   investigation  as                                                                    
appropriate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof  asked whether the findings  of the audits                                                                    
could be summarized.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Sherwood  relayed  that  the  department  had  found  a                                                                    
combination   of  things;   many   providers  were   billing                                                                    
appropriately, with a small degree  of error. He stated that                                                                    
inappropriate billing  had been identified and  had been the                                                                    
result of a lack of education  on policy or fraud. All cases                                                                    
found  fraudulent  were  turned over  for  further  criminal                                                                    
investigation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof  observed that the 'FY  Actuals' listed on                                                                    
Slide 19 listed zero.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Sherwood replied  that the  numbers on  the slide  were                                                                    
projections  of what  would be  obtained  through the  state                                                                    
false claims  act, which  had yet  to receive  approval from                                                                    
the Office of Inspector General.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:29:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin  informed that if state  residents were concerned                                                                    
about potential fraud they could call 1-907-269-6279.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   MacKinnon  asked   whether  the   department  was                                                                    
reaching out  to pharmacists in  the state in the  effort to                                                                    
fight the opioid epidemic.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Martin stated  that one  provision of  the prescription                                                                    
drug  monitoring program  was allowing  Medicaid pharmacists                                                                    
access to the data in that  program, which she said had been                                                                    
helpful in fighting the epidemic.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin showed Slide 20, "Medicaid Reform":                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Electronic Verification System                                                                                             
     FY17 Fiscal Note 611.3                                                                                                     
     FY17 Actuals -0-                                                                                                       
     FY18 Fiscal Note ($23.0)                                                                                                   
     FY19 Fiscal Note ($23.0)                                                                                                   
     On Track? Delayed                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ? Computerized income, asset and identity verification                                                                     
     system                                                                                                                     
       Third party vendor                                                                                                       
       Annual savings must exceed the cost of implementing                                                                      
     the system                                                                                                                 
     ? ARIES Release 2 delayed                                                                                                  
       January 2017  Maintenance for ARIES transferred                                                                          
     from contractor to DHSS                                                                                                    
       Working with CMS and Federal 18F team for agile                                                                          
     development process                                                                                                        
       RFP for Eligibility Verification System and Asset                                                                        
     Verification System by end of April                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin  relayed that there had  been a delay in  some of                                                                    
the  software system  due to  the  departure of  one of  the                                                                    
contractors. The Centers for  Medicare and Medicaid Services                                                                    
(CMMS) has paid for a  significant portion of the system and                                                                    
had  offered  technical support.  She  said  that the  Asset                                                                    
Verification System  (AVS) and the  Eligibility Verification                                                                    
System  (EVS) would  be combined,  an RFP  for both  systems                                                                    
will be released in April 2018.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:33:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon requested  further information conserving                                                                    
the asset  portion of the  combined systems.  She understood                                                                    
that   asset  value   was  not   currently  considered   for                                                                    
eligibility for Medicaid.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sherwood affirmed that  some Medicaid beneficiaries were                                                                    
not  subject to  an  asset test;  including, children,  low-                                                                    
income parents and caretaker  relatives, pregnant women, and                                                                    
Medicaid  expansion   population.  He  furthered   that  the                                                                    
Medicaid categories for the aged,  blind, and disabled still                                                                    
had asset tests, due to  the long duration of coverage under                                                                    
the program.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Martin  showed  Slide 21,  "Medicaid  Expansion  FMAP,"                                                                    
which  showed   a  table  illustrating   Medicaid  Expansion                                                                    
matches  and the  impact of  expenditures for  Indian Health                                                                    
Service  (IHS) recipients.  She  related  that the  calendar                                                                    
year  FMAP  was overlaid  with  the  state fiscal  year  and                                                                    
combined with the expenditures  that qualified regardless of                                                                    
the 100 percent  federal match, to reveal  the state General                                                                    
Fund match related to Medicaid expansion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof  asked whether there was a  way to overlay                                                                    
dollar  values. She  wondered what  the  percentages on  the                                                                    
table      would       equate      to       in      dollars.                                                                    
Ms. Martin  turned to Slide 22,  "Medicaid Expansion," which                                                                    
showed a table of the dollar amounts.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof thought that  the slide 22 did not reflect                                                                    
an  apples  to apples  comparison.  She  requested that  the                                                                    
information on  the slide be  enhanced to reflect  the total                                                                    
GF expenditure.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin agreed to provide the additional information.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:37:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Martin continued  discussing Slide  22. She  noted that                                                                    
the slide  contained the actual  and projected GF  spend for                                                                    
FY 17,  and projections for FY  18 and FY 19.  She said that                                                                    
areas  had been  identified where  reductions had  been made                                                                    
within the department and in the Department of Corrections.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin  looked at Slide 23,  "Medicaid Expansion," which                                                                    
showed  a line  graph  entitled  "Monthly Enrollment  Growth                                                                    
Rate." She stated  that growth had leveled  out beginning in                                                                    
September of  2017. She said  that growth had  progressed as                                                                    
anticipated.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Martin spoke  to  Slide 24,  "Medicaid  GF Cost  Saving                                                                    
Measures."  The slide outlined  actual savings for FY 17 and                                                                    
estimates  for FY  18. She  directed committee  attention to                                                                    
the cost saving measures that were new in FY 17 and FY 18.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie  interjected  that  the  department  had  exceed                                                                    
projected  savings by  $3 million,  due to  the decrease  in                                                                    
rates for hospitals and physicians.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked whether  Ms. Brodie  could explain                                                                    
why  there   was  $93  million  increase   in  spending  for                                                                    
Medicaid.                                                                                                                       
Ms. Brodie  stated that there  had been a large  increase in                                                                    
enrollment  that  had  driven  up  the  costs  of  care  for                                                                    
hospital services,  doctor services, and  pharmacy services.                                                                    
There  had  been  a  great  deal  of  growth  in  needs  for                                                                    
hepatitis-C drugs  and other  specialty drugs.  She lamented                                                                    
the new drugs  were being offered at  unprecedented costs to                                                                    
the  Medicaid programs  and all  health  payers. She  stated                                                                    
that  the department  had worked  to curb  those costs.  She                                                                    
opined that  though the department had  realized significant                                                                    
savings,  healthcare   costs  overall  had   increased.  She                                                                    
pointed out  to the committee  that without the  savings the                                                                    
department would be requesting twice as much funding.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:42:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  asked   whether  the  department  could                                                                    
reiterate  the  growth of  recipients  for  the public.  She                                                                    
recalled  and estimated  240,000 Medicaid  recipients in  FY                                                                    
19.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Martin  replied that 215,000  had been  the unduplicated                                                                    
count,  potential  Alaskans  that  were  receiving  Medicaid                                                                    
benefits  and services  through the  program. She  said that                                                                    
the  average  monthly  enrollment  was used  as  a  toll  in                                                                    
averaging  and  negated  some  of  the  seasonal  swings  in                                                                    
Medicaid enrollment,  as well as  recipients briefly  on the                                                                    
program.  She said  that in  FY 16,  the average  of monthly                                                                    
total  Medicaid  enrollment  was  $151,409;  in  FY  17  the                                                                    
average monthly enrollment was 186,748.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked whether  the state was  paying out                                                                    
30,000 claims week or per month.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Brodie  specified  that the  state  paid  over  120,000                                                                    
claims per week, for an average of $35 million.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:45:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche   thought  that  the  program   should  be                                                                    
designed  to  assist  those  that  were  most  in  need.  He                                                                    
believed that the state could  manage healthy individuals on                                                                    
the  program in  order  to  prevent overutilization,  rather                                                                    
than  reducing day  habitation  services  for Alaskans  that                                                                    
required more services.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DUANE  MAYES, DIRECTOR  OF SENIOR  AND DISABILITY  SERVICES,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH  AND  SOCIAL  SERVICES, discussed  the                                                                    
definition  of day  habilitation  services,  which meant  to                                                                    
take an individual that was  on the developmental disability                                                                    
waiver  out  into  the  community and  engaging  them  in  a                                                                    
variety  of  activities  such  as banking,  or  going  to  a                                                                    
medical appointment. He said  that day habilitation centered                                                                    
around active instruction; teaching  an individual the skill                                                                    
that  they  needed to  be  as  independent as  possible.  He                                                                    
shared  that  over his  time  as  division director  he  had                                                                    
noticed a growth  in cost for day  habilitation services, 40                                                                    
plus percent  over the past  5 years.  He said that  the day                                                                    
habilitation cap  had been implemented  on October  1, 2018,                                                                    
and 744 plans of care had  been reviewed, 8 percent of which                                                                    
had been denied  because they were above the  cap. He stated                                                                    
that that  cap was  soft but that  significant justification                                                                    
for the services  had to be presented. He  stressed that the                                                                    
division had  worked thoughtfully  to stabilize  the service                                                                    
category.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:49:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche wondered  why managing  the healthcare  of                                                                    
healthy  adults was  not a  priority over  managing that  of                                                                    
those most in need. He  thought that reducing utilization of                                                                    
healthy  adults would  reduce  cost for  those  who had  the                                                                    
greatest need.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   MacKinnon   expressed    appreciation   for   the                                                                    
department  on behalf  of the  committee. She  lamented that                                                                    
the state continued to face declining revenues.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon discussed housekeeping.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:53:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:53 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
013118 SFC DHSS Medicaid Cost Drivers and Reform .pdf SFIN 2/1/2018 9:00:00 AM
SB 144